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Council Gives Reassurance
Fri Jun 16 2017, 13:24
Council chiefs have written to residents in Wigan’s high-rise flats to reassure them after the tragic blaze at a tower block in London.
Read more at: http://www.wigantoday.net/news/council-gives-safety-reassurance-after-london-tower-block-fire-1-8599110
Read more at: http://www.wigantoday.net/news/council-gives-safety-reassurance-after-london-tower-block-fire-1-8599110
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Re: Council Gives Reassurance
Fri Jun 16 2017, 14:16
there is no way the council could have checked all the cladding on all the blocks of flats
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Re: Council Gives Reassurance
Fri Jun 16 2017, 14:25
I believe the buildings have been checked out stumpy.
http://www.itv.com/news/granada/update/2017-06-14/firefighter-have-checked-every-high-rise-in-greater-manchester/
http://www.itv.com/news/granada/update/2017-06-14/firefighter-have-checked-every-high-rise-in-greater-manchester/
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Re: Council Gives Reassurance
Fri Jun 16 2017, 14:31
all they will have done is look at the paperwork not gone to each building and checked them out
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Re: Council Gives Reassurance
Fri Jun 16 2017, 14:39
According to the link
"Every single one of those has been visited by our fire fighters who've not just gone to see what's there but see what's provided there to help people get out"
"Every single one of those has been visited by our fire fighters who've not just gone to see what's there but see what's provided there to help people get out"
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Re: Council Gives Reassurance
Fri Jun 16 2017, 14:52
there are approximately 500 flats in the tower blocks in Wigan no way have they all been visited
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Re: Council Gives Reassurance
Fri Jun 16 2017, 14:57
Every building has been visited, not every flat. At least that's how I understand it.
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Re: Council Gives Reassurance
Fri Jun 16 2017, 15:05
Admin wrote:Every building has been visited, not every flat. At least that's how I understand it.
I don't think they mean in the last few days though.
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Re: Council Gives Reassurance
Fri Jun 16 2017, 15:15
Possibly Kryten. I don't honestly know. It would be good for the residents to know that the buildings have been visited in the last few days in view of tragic events.
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Re: Council Gives Reassurance
Fri Jun 16 2017, 17:53
It's not the fire brigade's job. It's the job of the building control department of the council. They are the ones who (are supposed to) supervise construction and maintainence in order to make sure any work is in accordance with the current building regulations. There's also landlord and tenant act compliance (safety regulations).
Somebody will have to swing for this !
Somebody will have to swing for this !
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Re: Council Gives Reassurance
Fri Jun 16 2017, 18:00
Scapegoats will be used, sadly.
Many Housing associations have sent letters to tenants of High rise blocks assuring then of the block's safety, one Housing association has removed it's fire safety page from it's site..
https://www.yourhousinggroup.co.uk/firesafety
Many Housing associations have sent letters to tenants of High rise blocks assuring then of the block's safety, one Housing association has removed it's fire safety page from it's site..
https://www.yourhousinggroup.co.uk/firesafety
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Re: Council Gives Reassurance
Fri Jun 16 2017, 18:28
All high-rise blocks should have manual means of egress ( ie: metal steps , externally fixed ), for means of escape.
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Re: Council Gives Reassurance
Fri Jun 16 2017, 18:31
And two opposite stairwells....
I can see the reasoning behind the lack of sprinklers, (Children setting them off) but the blocks should be regularly checked to ensure all fire doors are closed in the corridors and there are no trip hazards .
Just seen the external stairwell post. I wouldn't like to see stairs going that high externally, but I see the reasoning.
I can see the reasoning behind the lack of sprinklers, (Children setting them off) but the blocks should be regularly checked to ensure all fire doors are closed in the corridors and there are no trip hazards .
Just seen the external stairwell post. I wouldn't like to see stairs going that high externally, but I see the reasoning.
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Re: Council Gives Reassurance
Sat Jun 17 2017, 18:03
Bill Hanah (spieling) developed a fire escape for flats in the 1960s dont know if it would be any good 26 stories
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Re: Council Gives Reassurance
Sat Jun 17 2017, 18:12
stumpy wrote:there are approximately 500 flats in the tower blocks in Wigan no way have they all been visited
The Wigan fire brigade checks were completed 2 months ago and are to be repeated. The cladding is non combustible and is fitted directly onto the brickwork, no gaps to cause chimneys, each block has two sets of stairs at either end of the block. Each flat has a working smoke alarm. All flats have fire doors, each corridor has at least 2 fire doors.
At the risk of repeating myself, if you don't live there don't scaremonger by making guesses....
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Re: Council Gives Reassurance
Sat Jun 17 2017, 18:18
are fire doors to each flat self closing
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Re: Council Gives Reassurance
Sat Jun 17 2017, 18:40
Yes they are, Stumpy. And there are hoses at each end of the corridor.
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Re: Council Gives Reassurance
Sat Jun 17 2017, 20:29
When I lived in't thigh rise in Worsley Mesnes, the fire hoses had been removed from the landings, because earlier in the blocks life, kids had kept using them to drench folk walking below, they squirted the water from the landing windows, which could be opened and imagine you are walking to the shop and you got hit by water from a fire hose, squirted from 15 floors up.
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Re: Council Gives Reassurance
Sun Jun 18 2017, 08:50
Hence the reason there are no sprinkler systems fitter.
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Re: Council Gives Reassurance
Sun Jun 18 2017, 12:13
Bob Brierley said, if he'd 'got in', he would have suggested parachutes for all Scholes flats tenants above the second floor and 'soft-landing grass' for those below.
Lisa Nandy said she thought it was an 'opposition idea' and Yvonne Fovargue agreed with anything that Lisa Nandy said.
Lisa Nandy said she thought it was an 'opposition idea' and Yvonne Fovargue agreed with anything that Lisa Nandy said.
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Re: Council Gives Reassurance
Fri Jul 07 2017, 11:13
Further reassurance has been given to residents living in Wigan’s high-rise blocks following the Grenfell Tower tragedy. All social housing providers in the country have carried out fire-safety reviews following the tragedy. Wigan Council is leading an on-going review of fire safety measures on its seven high rise blocks, which are all based in Scholes in central Wigan. The review has so far found no immediate action needs to be taken with the type of cladding used on the building, raising no cause for concern.
Read more at: http://www.wigantoday.net/news/reassurance-for-wigan-residents-following-review-of-high-rise-safety-1-8636904
Read more at: http://www.wigantoday.net/news/reassurance-for-wigan-residents-following-review-of-high-rise-safety-1-8636904
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Re: Council Gives Reassurance
Fri Jul 07 2017, 17:08
The residents of the high rises in Scholes are really peed off with the Council over the cladding turning green and falling off fiasco and all the upheaval it as caused and although they have been told their cladding is safe from catching fire, they don't have any faith in the council, so they are not really reassured by the letter which they received.
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Re: Council Gives Reassurance
Fri Jul 07 2017, 17:29
There have been complaints that the netting is stopping any breeze getting in during the hot weather.
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Re: Council Gives Reassurance
Fri Jul 07 2017, 18:30
Sir Bob wrote:The residents of the high rises in Scholes are really peed off with the Council over the cladding turning green and falling off fiasco and all the upheaval it as caused and although they have been told their cladding is safe from catching fire, they don't have any faith in the council, so they are not really reassured by the letter which they received.
every single one?
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