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Hieronymous- Posts : 6274
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Lawn Renovs Spring 2015
Mon Mar 23 2015, 07:37
Finally got around to renovating the lawn yesterday. I'm still a bit annoyed that I was unable to do it in Autumn but that's life I suppose.
When scarifying I noticed there was a bit of moss in the lawn so I've probably scattered the spores somewhat. Just have to wait and see.
Anyway, preparation:
Mantis Tiller fitted with scarifying tines:
Grass seed (mainly fescues) and Spring/Summer fertiliser (16-0-5+Fe)
Seed/Fertiliser/Topdressing spreader and electric lawn rake with a bag of 70/30 topdressing:
The lawn before starting. The string line is to ensure I get the right angle when scarifying. Scarifying at 90° tends to rip up the turf.
After scarifying in four directions:
It always amazes me just how much rubbish comes out of it.
After tidying with electric lawn rake:
Unfortunately the grassbox on the rake is rather poor. It's too shallow and a bit too far away from the actual machine. C'est la vie!
Mantis Tiller fitted with aeration tines:
After aeration:
After tidying with electric lawn rake:
Subsequent to this I spread some grass seed by hand around the edges of the lawn then used the spreader for the main part.
Following this I spread the fertiliser and then the topdressing. I didn't take any photos because it wouldn't have been visible.
I am now rather dependent on the weather. Should see results in about four weeks temperatures and rainfall allowing.
When scarifying I noticed there was a bit of moss in the lawn so I've probably scattered the spores somewhat. Just have to wait and see.
Anyway, preparation:
Mantis Tiller fitted with scarifying tines:
Grass seed (mainly fescues) and Spring/Summer fertiliser (16-0-5+Fe)
Seed/Fertiliser/Topdressing spreader and electric lawn rake with a bag of 70/30 topdressing:
The lawn before starting. The string line is to ensure I get the right angle when scarifying. Scarifying at 90° tends to rip up the turf.
After scarifying in four directions:
It always amazes me just how much rubbish comes out of it.
After tidying with electric lawn rake:
Unfortunately the grassbox on the rake is rather poor. It's too shallow and a bit too far away from the actual machine. C'est la vie!
Mantis Tiller fitted with aeration tines:
After aeration:
After tidying with electric lawn rake:
Subsequent to this I spread some grass seed by hand around the edges of the lawn then used the spreader for the main part.
Following this I spread the fertiliser and then the topdressing. I didn't take any photos because it wouldn't have been visible.
I am now rather dependent on the weather. Should see results in about four weeks temperatures and rainfall allowing.
veg grower- Posts : 7352
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Re: Lawn Renovs Spring 2015
Mon Mar 23 2015, 08:40
Thats ace! Its obviously an exact science, although I don't think it is something I would ever do. Thanks for the pics - can't wait to see what it looks like in a few weeks.
PS - what are those pom-pom trees in the border - are they peonies?
PS - what are those pom-pom trees in the border - are they peonies?
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Re: Lawn Renovs Spring 2015
Mon Mar 23 2015, 09:10
I don't know about it being an exact science though, obviously, there is science involved. Mainly biology and chemistry.
As for the trees, I don't know. I shall find out.
As for the trees, I don't know. I shall find out.
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Re: Lawn Renovs Spring 2015
Tue Mar 24 2015, 07:16
Well, as far as the lawn is concerned I couldn't have asked for a much better day, yesterday apart from temperatures.
The morning rain should have washed everything in nicely then we had a bit of sun in the afternoon. Should work reasonably well though warmer temperatures would be welcome.
The morning rain should have washed everything in nicely then we had a bit of sun in the afternoon. Should work reasonably well though warmer temperatures would be welcome.
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Re: Lawn Renovs Spring 2015
Wed Mar 25 2015, 06:33
Heavy rain forecast for tonight will give your lawn a good drink.
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Re: Lawn Renovs Spring 2015
Sun Mar 29 2015, 20:53
veg grower wrote:
PS - what are those pom-pom trees in the border - are they peonies?
No. Camelias apparently.
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Re: Lawn Renovs Spring 2015
Mon Mar 30 2015, 10:09
Thats it! Funnily enough I asked a chap the other day what was flowering behind his fence and for some reason I said Peony to him too, no he said, it begins with C - after a day or so of mulling it over I shouted 'Camelia' when I saw him and he confirmed it was! I wondered if that was what yours was after. He is letting me take a cutting off it - so will look online the best way to propagate. 
Well, your lawn is getting plenty water at the mo!
Well, your lawn is getting plenty water at the mo!
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Re: Lawn Renovs Spring 2015
Sun Apr 19 2015, 20:16
It's about four weeks since I did the renovations and the lawn is, generally coming along nicely although there's still quite a few weed grasses in it. Hopefully the mowing regime will put paid to them. Also spotted a number of miner bee nests in it. I doubt they'll enjoy the treatment of the lawn though.
Before mowing:
After mowing:
I'm not entirely sure why there doesn't seem to have been a good 'take' at the top corner.
Before mowing:
After mowing:
I'm not entirely sure why there doesn't seem to have been a good 'take' at the top corner.
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Re: Lawn Renovs Spring 2015
Sun May 06 2018, 19:54
Once again I've had to delay lawn renovations till now for various reasons. I did notice quite a bit of moss in the lawn so I treated that with lawn sand and watered it in. It made the lawn rather unsightly of course but you can't make an omelette 'bout breaking eggs.
So then I had to wait a while to make sure the moss was dead as, apparently, moss dies from the bottom upwards and scarifying too soon means spreading spores.
Anyway today I gave it a good scarifying with the Mantis tiller and noticed that I seem to have missed quite a bit of moss which is annoying. It's always amazing, though, the amount of dead material that comes out of it.
It's a bit too hot and dry to do anything further so I'll have to wait till rain is forecast and hope it's showers rather than the deluge we seem to get these days. Sunshine and showers will do me.
So then I had to wait a while to make sure the moss was dead as, apparently, moss dies from the bottom upwards and scarifying too soon means spreading spores.
Anyway today I gave it a good scarifying with the Mantis tiller and noticed that I seem to have missed quite a bit of moss which is annoying. It's always amazing, though, the amount of dead material that comes out of it.
It's a bit too hot and dry to do anything further so I'll have to wait till rain is forecast and hope it's showers rather than the deluge we seem to get these days. Sunshine and showers will do me.
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Re: Lawn Renovs Spring 2015
Thu May 24 2018, 14:42
I have greenthumb treat my lawns, they do 4 treatments a year at £16 per treatment, its a moss killer and some special formular of their own to green the grass, I'm pleased with the results and think its money well spent, Also after patches of moss have died I reseed to keep an even green lawn,
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Re: Lawn Renovs Spring 2015
Wed May 30 2018, 09:49
oaplum wrote:I have greenthumb treat my lawns, they do 4 treatments a year at £16 per treatment, its a moss killer and some special formular of their own to green the grass, I'm pleased with the results and think its money well spent, Also after patches of moss have died I reseed to keep an even green lawn,
That will be liquid iron.
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Re: Lawn Renovs Spring 2015
Thu Jun 07 2018, 12:24
Hieronymous, what will liquid iron do ? and what do you recommend for lawns in this dry weather, my lawns looking sad, I water it every night as the sun goes down, but the greenness has faded,
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Re: Lawn Renovs Spring 2015
Thu Jun 07 2018, 14:14
oaplum wrote:Hieronymous, what will liquid iron do ? and what do you recommend for lawns in this dry weather, my lawns looking sad, I water it every night as the sun goes down, but the greenness has faded,
Liquid iron will green it up. Have you applied any fertiliser? A summer fertiliser with a high nitrogen content will also help. Look for the N:P:K
N= Nitrogen
P= Potash
K-Potassium
Also, do you aerate it?
Can you push a fork into it with ease? If not it's probably compacted. I hired a machine from a place in Burscough to do some hollow coring. Not this one, though, this is just for your information:
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Re: Lawn Renovs Spring 2015
Thu Jun 07 2018, 19:17
yes, I arerate it every year, I let greenthumb do it one year and they used a core machine like that one, made a right mess, but it recovered,,
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Re: Lawn Renovs Spring 2015
Thu Jun 07 2018, 19:30
You can't make an omelette without breaking eggs! I'd aerate more frequently if I were you and decompact the lawn if necessary
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Re: Lawn Renovs Spring 2015
Thu Jun 07 2018, 22:39
ney then, I thought aerating was an autumn job , me aerating i did'tknow you can do it more often, so how often should i do it, ?
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Re: Lawn Renovs Spring 2015
Fri Jun 08 2018, 13:49
There's no set frequency. Basically when it's required and if conditions allow.
I'd also advise using your fork the 'right' way round,stick it in. pull it back to about 45°, back to beginning and out. This will both aerate and decompact. Labour intensive though.
I also got to wondering if you or GT had scarified your lawn. It's amazing how much dead stuff comes out of it.
I'd also advise using your fork the 'right' way round,stick it in. pull it back to about 45°, back to beginning and out. This will both aerate and decompact. Labour intensive though.
I also got to wondering if you or GT had scarified your lawn. It's amazing how much dead stuff comes out of it.
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Re: Lawn Renovs Spring 2015
Fri Jun 08 2018, 13:59
My grandfather put a week solution bleach[Lanry I think it was] on his lawns to remove worms. I remember going behind him and collecting the worms that came up. I've wondered for many years why he would have done this.
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Re: Lawn Renovs Spring 2015
Fri Jun 08 2018, 15:48
Because of worm casts. That is, worms that come to the surface to defecate. Worm casts can cause all sorts of problems. They'll stick to mower roller and cause a mud type problem, they are convenient for weeds to germinate in and they look unsightly.
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Re: Lawn Renovs Spring 2015
Fri Jun 08 2018, 16:13
I have farsands of worms in my lawn, when i areate it they come up from everywhere, I thought it was good till now, 
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Re: Lawn Renovs Spring 2015
Fri Jun 08 2018, 16:17
It would be if it wasn't for the worm casts.
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Re: Lawn Renovs Spring 2015
Fri Jun 08 2018, 23:45
thanks for the lawn lessons Hieronymous, I've ordered a pair of aerating sandals, £8 off ebay, I'll give it a couple of good treadings when they come, 
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Re: Lawn Renovs Spring 2015
Sun Jun 10 2018, 21:40
just watched a video on youtube about worm casts, they manufacture and sell worm casts as fertilizer, I'm getting it for free, good ole worms, 
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